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Friday Comments and Stuff

March 27, 2009

Happy Friday to you all. So nice to have football back isn’t it? At least for a little while anyway.

I thought the picture was appropriate, based on the idea of how far the team has to go to compete up front. There is no question the offensive and defensive lines were rag-dolled most of last year, and the reasons were many – lack of size, lack of strength, too young, etc. But it does at least sound like we’re seeing progress there, such as the article the other day where they ran down the new weights of several players.

And on that note, there were some great comments you have left over the last few days, and we thought it would be a good idea to highlight a few of them.

’03CouveCoug had some good thoughts on what ails the program, and what to do about it:

Alright Sedi, you asked what’s broke, and how do we fix it…so here goes. What’s broke is simple…both lines.

Until the Cougs can send out Pac-10 caliber lines, they will not win many games. It all starts up front on both sides of the ball. We need DT’s that:
1. Clog the middle and allow the linebackers to make plays when offenses run and
2. To occupy as many opposing OL’s as possible on passing plays so that the DEs and/or blitzers can tee off on the opposing QB. Remember Long, Tupai, and Williams? Or Sasa and Eaton? THAT’S why those defenses were so good!

We need DEs that:
1. Can not only pin their ears back and rush the backfield on passing downs
2. That have the strength and quickness to turn running plays back inside toward their friends. Does DD Acholonu have younger brothers or cousins?

The only way to fix this is to continue to recruit “big frame” guys with good feet that we can put weight on to become DTs and to recruit “strong motor” linebacker types that also have the frames to put on weight in order to make them ferocious DEs.

Do we already have guys like this on the team? I believe the answer is yes, we fans just need to give them time to develop. I also believe that it is slightly easier to make quick improvement on defense because playing D does not require as much precision and execution as offense and can be played with more instinct and emotion.

On the offensive line, we need more “big frame” guys that have great footwork, good agility and great smarts. Not to say that every player doesn’t need smarts, but it is my opinion that besides the QB, the o-linemen need to be the smartest guys on the field. I really think that these types of o-linemen are already on the roster. I think health and cohesion will promote a vast improvement amongst this group this year (fingers and toes crossed). Let’s just keep recruiting the TE type out of high school and make them big boys!

I think a great example of this is down the way in Corvallis. The Beavs have developed a very good program because they have the ability to throw out waves of good, if not great lineman on both sides of the ball, which they have the ability to do because of great coaching and redshirting. If we develop our lines like OSU (easier said than done) over the coming years our beloved Cougs will perennially be a team to be reckoned with.

Well said. I think we are on the same page here? I know we’ve been trumpeting what Oregon State has become for some time, and they are the perfect model for WSU to follow….


Except the part about CHOKING the Rose Bowl bid at home against your hated rival! OUCH. Moving on…

CalebCherry dropped in to say that WSU’s future approach should be to focus a lot more on defense, ala the hoops program:

For us out here, I think if we are going to have one side of the ball dominate heads and shoulders above the other… especially in our conference, we stand a far better chance of getting to a bowl game with an offense that puts just enough points on the board and a defense that is our foundation and what keeps us competitive and turns peoples heads.

It seems like the most effective use of our time given we’re still a couple years into an completely new offensive philosophy.

There shouldn’t be any reason we can’t supply some demand for local (even west coast) guys who only have USC (and maybe oregon?) to look to when they dream about playing some pin-your-ears-back defense.

The best way I can say it is… I’d love to have the same feeling I get when cougar basketball plays ANYONE! I know it’s not out of the question that our defense will keep us in the game with literally… anyone.

Good takes. I remember Wulff saying on one of last fall’s radio shows about how he learned from Mike Price the approach of stocking up on speed and athleticism on defense, and how important that was to our past successes.


It’s easy to look at Price’s best teams and see how even with some very productive offenses, the D was a huge factor (’92, ’94’, ’97, ’01’, ’02).

Chris’04 weighed in, saying the pound increase on these guys sounds good, but “FAT” isn’t always a good thing….

This is GREAT news! I’m glad to see that Wulff has delivered on his promise to bulk up our guys. But, bulk does not always equal performance. Keep in mind that the Fuskies had the heaviest OLine in the Pac10 last year. Look where that got them. But I trust Wulff 100% that he is not adding bulk at the expense of strength and quickness.

Good point Chris. UW boasted about their large line, but yeah, didn’t really do much for them. Funny how much hype UW’s o-line had coming into 2008, but when they lost the scrambling Locker, suddenly they couldn’t move or pass block worth a damn? Coincidence??

“BMels”, a newcomer to comments I believe(?), had his thoughts and parallels with the WSU hoops program when the Bennett’s started their program flip:

When considering the future of our Cougs, I must think back to the ways of the Bennett crew taking charge at Beasley. First years were atrocious, awful, ugly, painful, disgusting…you get the idea. And for the most part, that continued even when Tony took over and “the big three” (Weaver, Low, Cowgill) were frosh. Their sophomore year, they continued to lose but all games were close, often coming down to the last couple minutes or plays. And the next year, well, I don’t need to tell anybody about our first trip to the Dance in recent memory. I honestly foresee the football team following suit and taking steps in the right direction.

No predictions but i see more competitive losses next year where we actually look like a football team with football players making football plays. We continue to grow and build, guys get bigger/faster/stronger, and team character builds. I think 2010 shows serious progress reflected in wins and losses but 2011 is the year where this year’s incoming freshman have the chance to make some noise.

And there is no way Wulff has anything to worry about even potentially until after 2010 at the earliest. He’s gonna get more than a fair chance to right the ship.

I know I have heard this comp a few times, as a lot of you have as well. While hoops and football are very different and, honestly, it at least appears that it is a little easier to change things in hoops more quickly than football, it is fair to compare both programs at this juncture to see if they follow the same path. Although Dick Bennett did coach at WSU for three losing seasons, and it wasn’t until Tony took over in year four before they broke through to the NCAA’s, well, we COULD see the improvement this year on the football field in terms of things are tightened up and the foundations are laid for future success. But I think it is difficult to compare the different sports and draw too much of a conclusion. Time will tell.

Finally, our own Hooty had this to say about the sour-face Governor during UW’s loss to Purdue:

If Gregoire were green, she’d look exactly like the Grinch.

Good call.

There are some links and stuff out there as well, floating about after day one.

GRIPPI NAILS ONE TODAY with his day-one practice recap. GREAT to hear Lobbestael throwing TD’s in seven-on-seven drills!

The TNT’s Ryan Divish dives into the improvement expected for this spring.

And Cougfan has been blowing up the coverage. It’s all premium stuff, but they are all over it.

ENJOY YOUR FRIDAY, and as always, GO COUGS!

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What YOU Said

October 10, 2008
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I think we can all agree, this was a pretty strong week of comments. Many of you weighed in on a variety of topics, and when you are just THIS good? You deserve some front-page stuff. So, we thought it would be a good idea to look at what some of you said:

From our Tuesday post, “Are You Not Entertained“, we simply asked why you watch right now, and if you are entertained.

Longball:

Awesome stuff, Hawk. I, for one, am really excited about watching Ocho Rojo each week and confident that sooner or later things are going to start to click with him, Ivory, Karstetter, Anderson and some of our young linemen. Its been a hard thing to express for fear that it may sound like I am happy Rogers and Lopina suffered horrible injuries. I think its unfortunate things happened the way they did, but given the trajectory of this team, going young was the right way to go whether forced to or not. And Louis BLand? That was exciting. And lets get Toby Turpin in there, club-hand and all!

I know i may come across as a bit of a blind optimist in the middle of our worst season ever, but its because I truly see what I think are the seeds of success. One thing that was made crystal clear to me seeing practice this summer and talking to coaches and even their wives was that we had wildly disparate expectations. While I saw a team with just enough fire power at the skill positions to compete for a bowl, they saw a team way too thin at key spots to even be competitive. It took me a while to understand that while we were all talking post season, the improvement and progress the coaches were hoping for was measured not in W’s and L’s, but in things like guys learning how to tackle, or adding the extra strength they need to play D1, or filling the holes we have through recruiting and reestablishing connections to high school programs and coaches. These things are all happening.

I watch Cougar Football because I am from here, and nothing represents where I’m from to the outside world as much as Cougar Football (and lentils). I watch because while winning seasons dont come often, when they do come they are so much sweeter knowing all we were up against and had to overcome to achieve them. I watch because i don’t want to miss the next turning point where we all look back and say, THAT was the moment it all turned around.

My friends and I have been known to sit around drinking beers and play an unnamed game where someone names a Cougar football player, past or present, and the next guy has to name a player whose name begins with the last letter of the previous player’s name. This can go on for HOURS and you wouldn’t believe some of the players whose names pop-up. Frequently someone will pull out a name none of us have thought of for years, but instantly brings roars of appreciation as we all revel in the nostalgia. Many of these guys we have the fondest memories of played their hearts out on some of our worst teams. So I guess you could say, I watch Cougar Football because Kitrick Taylor was worth watching whether we went to bowl game or not.

For you, Longball, Kitrick Taylor.

We love Kitrick Taylor from the old days. He’s also the answer to one of the most popular trivia questions in Green Bay Packer history.

Q: Who caught Brett Favre’s first game-winning TD pass in Green Bay?

A: Kitrick Taylor.

I guess you know you are a big deal when you have a Wikipedia entry???

Kitrick Lavell Taylor (born 196407-22 in Los Angeles, California) is a former professional American football player. A wide receiver in the National Football League from 1988-1993, Taylor is probably best known for catching Brett Favre‘s first ever winning touchdown pass in the NFL, a 35-yard strike to defeat the Cincinnati Bengals, 24-23, on September 20th, 1992.

I think we want to party with you Longball. Seriously, I know Longball is one of our regular contributors, but his comment was right on. The guy has tremendous passion for all things Coug and has been there through thick and thin. And maybe nobody will feel as good as Longball when we see this thing get turned around.

“Woody” weighed in on his current state of mind:

I have been stewing on this for awhile now and have not posted. lately. My ulcer, wife and sanity has prevented me from doing so.

There is literally nothing that translate from marriage to

blogging, except for the old adage:

Never go to Blog angry.

So, instead of going off half cocked this season; I have chosen to simmer, be patient and take deep breaths…Serenity now, serenity now!

Like every Cougar fan we have had to figure out a way to deal with (going out on a limb here) the worst Cougar team in history. The losses have been tough. Actually the losses have not been that tough. Unfortunately, I think I am numb to the concept of win vs. loss. However, the absolutely horrific manner in which we get our a** kicked is what has been tough.

We can simply ignore the games, drown them out with a half rack of Natty Light or submerse ourselves as gluttons and try to find glimmers of hope.

I am not going to comment on specific performances or game details, what’s the point.

I was a Wulff Guy from the get go AND STILL AM! However, I think a few changes might need to be made.

I knew we would be bad this year. But I never figured us to be Historically putrid…I mean we suck!

Wulff came in to the beginning of this season with great support and admiration from the base. But that sunny optimism has slowly been disappearing as the historic drubbings we have taken this year has really cast a shadow amongst the program. Might I even say cast some doubt if a DII Coach was the right way to go.

I am afraid that while fans will be patient the window of patience has already begun to close. Hey, I think Cougar Fans could handle a 2-11 year, lord knows we have done it before. But a 2-11 year in which we set records for ineptness, worst losses in history @ home and god forbid also lose the Apple Cup to the worst Husky team in history. It will have seemed that the keys were given to the wrong crew. Fans patience will maybe, just maybe be short starting next year. Which would be a shame, but I think a reality. Fans are going to need to see something in the next 7 games. Maybe not wins but something that reassures us that the right decision was made.

We will watch again this Saturday and hope to see something special happen, baby steps from our QB, and hope we can hold that little Beaver RB to no more than 2 – 50+ yard TD runs.

That reminds me I need to go to the store for more Natty Light!

Serenity Now…Serenity Now…Serenity Now…

Go Cougs!

Woody

Excellent perspective here. We’ve gotten it handed to us in ways we haven’t experienced before this year, and these times will try us all. Even the optimist has a tough time with the half full/half empty glass due to the demoralizing nature of what we’ve seen.

’03CouveCoug, WOW, great stuff man:

I had the good fortune of attending Wazzu from 1999-2003. I will always look back on memories from those times with great fondness. I was telling my wife on our way to Homecoming that I really enjoy going back to games in Pullman because it reminds me of where and when my life came together. The WSU Football team from that time had a little something to do with many of my fond memories. It sounds silly, but I look back and liken the journey of those teams with my own through college.

I went to Pullman a cocky 18 year old who thought he had the world by the tail. Probably like several of those freshmen on the football team. Boy did I find out quickly that things were going to be different. The Cougs suffered through a dreadful 3-9 campaign and had to go back to the drawing board, but they did discover this kid named Gesser. By my sophomore year, I started figuring out how to be a disciplined student and an adult (at least sometimes), but still had my ups and downs. Much like our Cougs on the field, there were glimmers of greatness followed by heart-wrenching failures.

My junior year, things started to come together. I had declared a major and found my niche, not to mention friends that I’ll have for life. The Cougs still weren’t expected to do much, but proved all of the “experts” wrong by finishing 3rd in the Pac-10 and winning a bowl game for the first time since 1994. Finally by senior year, I had high expectations for myself. I searched for a career and found it. More importantly, I also found my future wife. Life was good. And the Cougs put it all together and went wire-to-wire winning the Pac-10, culminating in its second Rose Bowl in 5 years.

This is why I cheer and always will. I’ll remember my journey to adulthood at WSU and always feel like the journey of those teams mirrored my experiences. Where am I going with all of this? Well, this season feels an awful lot like the 1998 and 1999 seasons that made it seem like all was being squandered after the 1997 season for the ages. Things seemed pretty bleak then, as well. But, WSU was bringing in kids with a lot of character that wanted to work hard and prove to all that they were among the best. After some growing pains, they sure did that. And that is exactly what I think Coach Wulff is fostering right now. We’re not looking good at all in the games, but we’ve already gotten back to the basics. I have great confidence that the staff and players will continue to build on those basics one step at a time and take our team back to winning ways.

So, what do I hope to see, you ask? I hope to see continued improvement on and off of the field, fundamentally, in attitude and in character. Imagine what a valuable experience this is for the young guys…they’ll be able to look any challenge in the face in future years and know that they can overcome it. I hope to see the young guys get a shot and hopefully make the best of it. Most importantly, I hope to see our students, alumni and fans rally around the cause of making our football team great again. I know we will because we’re Cougs…we’re “The Little Engine That Could!”

GO COUGS!

Nothing like a coming of age story that parallels the rise of a football team. That said, I don’t know you Couve, but I hope you are in a much better place than the ’08 version of Cougar football.

After all that, “Bill Gray” said:

Don’t worry guys. We’re a basketball school.



Well played. And thanks for the reminder. We ARE a hoops school, at least right now.

Finally, our own Hooty McBoob dropped by for Football Friday…only on Thursday…and responded to the frazzled hockey mom of the moment picture:

Hawk – thanks for reminding me of yet another lost classic. I’ve just purchased “Something to Believe In” on iTunes (seriously) – for a mere 99 cents – what a bargain!

…and BH, please don’t mention beaver and Sarah Palin in the same sentance again. She turns me on and since I work at home, it’s already tempting enough to spend some quality time alone with her picture and a gym sock.



Hooty….Really? Tempting enough? As if you haven’t already gone there. Please.

See, we do read your comments, every day, and we do appreciate what you have to say. Some of you are crazy-angry and yes, we’ve had to delete a few that many of you haven’t seen, and for obvious reasons. But overall, we love YOUR takes. Keep it coming.

That’s about it. Oh, and if you haven’t already….SELL! SELL! SELL!

It’s been a brutal week in the market, but the worst may be just about to hit. Scary, scary stuff in the real world right now. Hang in there.

And as always, GO COUGS!